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	<title>Comments on: Is &#8220;Ethical Internet Marketing&#8221; an Oxymoron?</title>
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		<title>By: Des Walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkinghomebusiness.com/2010/02/03/is-ethical-internet-marketing-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-8629</link>
		<dc:creator>Des Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right Nikky about the use of unethical practices. I have to disagree however and say I believe we can do something about it. We can for instance decline to become affiliates of people whose practices are unethical. We can declare and hold by higher standards ourselves. We can choose to associate with and collaborate with others who want to do business by higher standards. No different really from the offline world. As people have known for centuries, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/topic/if-you-lie-down-with-dogs-you-will-get-up-with-fleas&quot;&gt;Chi va dormir con i cani, si leua con i pulici&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Nikky about the use of unethical practices. I have to disagree however and say I believe we can do something about it. We can for instance decline to become affiliates of people whose practices are unethical. We can declare and hold by higher standards ourselves. We can choose to associate with and collaborate with others who want to do business by higher standards. No different really from the offline world. As people have known for centuries, <em><a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/if-you-lie-down-with-dogs-you-will-get-up-with-fleas">Chi va dormir con i cani, si leua con i pulici</a></em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikky</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkinghomebusiness.com/2010/02/03/is-ethical-internet-marketing-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-8628</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet marketing can be very tricky.  Many internet marketers do everything even the unethical ways just to create sales for their accounts.  This act can be very disappointing, however, we can&#039;t do anything about it but to be observer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet marketing can be very tricky.  Many internet marketers do everything even the unethical ways just to create sales for their accounts.  This act can be very disappointing, however, we can&#8217;t do anything about it but to be observer.</p>
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		<title>By: Des Walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkinghomebusiness.com/2010/02/03/is-ethical-internet-marketing-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-7418</link>
		<dc:creator>Des Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your thoughts, Randy.

Well, it&#039;s actually $47 a month now. 

It&#039;s not my job to defend the setup, but the reality is that the Third Tribe concept has attracted a group of very impressive people. I don&#039;t mean impressive just in terms of their achievements or good name, although there is a good array of very well known and respected people: for me at least, the impressiveness is more in the quality, depth and breadth of the conversation, and the generous sharing of ideas and thoughtful advice. And frankly, the humility - there is none of the adolescent (with all due respect to adolescents, a group of whom I was once a member) boasting and point-scoring that goes on in some other Internet marketing gatherings. 

From what I have seen so far, I doubt that many, or perhaps any, of us would want to set ourselves up a &quot;Internet marketers with a conscience&quot; if the implication is that unspecified others don&#039;t &quot;have a conscience&quot;.  

Saying that the formation of a gathering and learning place for people who have a certain cluster of views about how they want to do business and are willing to pay a monthly membership fee means that they are setting themselves up as &quot;the good guys&quot; and thereby labelling everyone else as something other, is a colorful debating point, but it&#039;s what I think lawyers would call a &quot;straw man&quot;.

As for the cost, well, a) it never ceases to amaze me how much people spend at restaurants and bars as if there is no tomorrow (even though I&#039; m a Sydneysider born and bred, I nearly fell over a couple of years ago when I went to a bloggers&#039; meetup in a city hotel and one glass of mediocre wine cost $9) and b) it takes money to run things well. I imagine if a perception ever takes hold individually or collectively that group membership does not provide value for money then the subscriptions will cease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughts, Randy.</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s actually $47 a month now. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not my job to defend the setup, but the reality is that the Third Tribe concept has attracted a group of very impressive people. I don&#8217;t mean impressive just in terms of their achievements or good name, although there is a good array of very well known and respected people: for me at least, the impressiveness is more in the quality, depth and breadth of the conversation, and the generous sharing of ideas and thoughtful advice. And frankly, the humility &#8211; there is none of the adolescent (with all due respect to adolescents, a group of whom I was once a member) boasting and point-scoring that goes on in some other Internet marketing gatherings. </p>
<p>From what I have seen so far, I doubt that many, or perhaps any, of us would want to set ourselves up a &#8220;Internet marketers with a conscience&#8221; if the implication is that unspecified others don&#8217;t &#8220;have a conscience&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Saying that the formation of a gathering and learning place for people who have a certain cluster of views about how they want to do business and are willing to pay a monthly membership fee means that they are setting themselves up as &#8220;the good guys&#8221; and thereby labelling everyone else as something other, is a colorful debating point, but it&#8217;s what I think lawyers would call a &#8220;straw man&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for the cost, well, a) it never ceases to amaze me how much people spend at restaurants and bars as if there is no tomorrow (even though I&#8217; m a Sydneysider born and bred, I nearly fell over a couple of years ago when I went to a bloggers&#8217; meetup in a city hotel and one glass of mediocre wine cost $9) and b) it takes money to run things well. I imagine if a perception ever takes hold individually or collectively that group membership does not provide value for money then the subscriptions will cease.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Duermyer</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkinghomebusiness.com/2010/02/03/is-ethical-internet-marketing-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-7417</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Duermyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree these are unquestionably the best in the business, I think it&#039;s a bit &quot;snobby&quot; or old-school Internet marketing to make people pay for the privilege of joining. It&#039;s $20 something a month now, but what will it climb to in the future. I still think the blogs and sites put out by the founders of the Third Tribe are some of the best in the business, but to me the concept is like saying &quot;You can be part of the Third Tribe - a group of Internet marketers with a conscience - so long as you pony up the cash and continue to do so in perpetuity. Since when should I have to pay a monthly fee to be considered one of the &quot;good guys&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree these are unquestionably the best in the business, I think it&#8217;s a bit &#8220;snobby&#8221; or old-school Internet marketing to make people pay for the privilege of joining. It&#8217;s $20 something a month now, but what will it climb to in the future. I still think the blogs and sites put out by the founders of the Third Tribe are some of the best in the business, but to me the concept is like saying &#8220;You can be part of the Third Tribe &#8211; a group of Internet marketers with a conscience &#8211; so long as you pony up the cash and continue to do so in perpetuity. Since when should I have to pay a monthly fee to be considered one of the &#8220;good guys&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Somone</title>
		<link>http://www.thinkinghomebusiness.com/2010/02/03/is-ethical-internet-marketing-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-7387</link>
		<dc:creator>Somone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Des, I love the honesty of this post. I need to be able to live with myself and feel proud about my actions and behaviour. 

I joined Wealthy Affiliate for the first full month (because there were no refunds I visited frequently) to really assess it. I didn&#039;t feel comfortable. After logging out each time I felt like a shower. (I kid you not). Everyone had this sense of urgency to make money. I&#039;m more of a cautious and critical approacher and then I really get going.

I felt comfortable joining Third Tribe because I had already had experiences with Brian with Thesis, loved Darren&#039;s Aussie contribution and read Chris&#039;s book after picking up a copy at last year&#039;s Affiliate Summit in New York. I haven&#039;t really had much to do with Sonia to date, but that will be remedied soon.

So far, I&#039; m enjoying my experience - but I&#039;m still hesitant to see how different it is. I&#039;ll do my best to keep the bas*ards honest :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Des, I love the honesty of this post. I need to be able to live with myself and feel proud about my actions and behaviour. </p>
<p>I joined Wealthy Affiliate for the first full month (because there were no refunds I visited frequently) to really assess it. I didn&#8217;t feel comfortable. After logging out each time I felt like a shower. (I kid you not). Everyone had this sense of urgency to make money. I&#8217;m more of a cautious and critical approacher and then I really get going.</p>
<p>I felt comfortable joining Third Tribe because I had already had experiences with Brian with Thesis, loved Darren&#8217;s Aussie contribution and read Chris&#8217;s book after picking up a copy at last year&#8217;s Affiliate Summit in New York. I haven&#8217;t really had much to do with Sonia to date, but that will be remedied soon.</p>
<p>So far, I&#8217; m enjoying my experience &#8211; but I&#8217;m still hesitant to see how different it is. I&#8217;ll do my best to keep the bas*ards honest <img src='http://www.thinkinghomebusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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